Portal spoilerz/discussion

Gunslinger42 · Post by **Gunslinger42** » October 13th, 2007, 17:43

Decided to finish off the advanced levels today after some Episode 2 and holy crap they're good. Level 18 was just amazing.

Post by **fabyak** » October 14th, 2007, 2:31

There was one part of 18 I had to look up, but all the rest of them I managed to figure out meself

Lateralus · Post by **Lateralus** » October 14th, 2007, 10:13

LOL Steam update news:

"*whew* Now we're taking a break to eat some cake. "

Not tried the advanced ones yet, but figure that Ep2 deserves some of my time since I've not actually tried it yet!

Post by **Grimmie** » October 14th, 2007, 10:26

After reformatting, went through Portal again while I waited for Ep2 to finish downloading.
Interesting to see that I completed it in about 4 hours first time, and 1:30 the second time round.

Once you know the maps, it's quite easy :p

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » October 14th, 2007, 10:32

Grimmie wrote:After reformatting, went through Portal again while I waited for Ep2 to finish downloading.
Interesting to see that I completed it in about 4 hours first time, and 1:30 the second time round.

Once you know the maps, it's quite easy :p

Are PC better now?

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » October 14th, 2007, 11:53

I'd got to the boss in one sitting and just finished it now.

Oh my, this really is an absolute masterpiece, I don't have much to add above what has already been said.

The song is just so.. beautiful, should.. have sent... a poet.

buzzmong · Post by **buzzmong** » October 14th, 2007, 12:05

Nice new avatar bobbins.

Gunslinger42 · Post by **Gunslinger42** » October 14th, 2007, 12:15

I still haven't done the "challenge" maps. I can't see how it's possible to get gold on some of them

Post by **HereComesPete** » October 14th, 2007, 12:21

Chetz an haxx. It's the only way.

Stoat · Post by **Stoat** » October 14th, 2007, 12:25

Gunslinger42 wrote:I still haven't done the "challenge" maps. I can't see how it's possible to get gold on some of them

I still haven't got my head around the Steps challenges yet, but I think I've got Gold on all the Least Portals ones and I'm having a go at the Speed runs now.

mrbobbins · Post by **mrbobbins** » October 14th, 2007, 12:33

Any idea if this means anything?!...

http://www.bobbins.xappy.com/Store/EP2e ... 130000.jpg

Username and password for what?

Post by **Grimmie** » October 14th, 2007, 12:35

mrbobbins wrote:Any idea if this means anything?!...

http://www.bobbins.xappy.com/Store/EP2e ... 130000.jpg

Username and password for what?

http://www.aperturescience.com/
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Porta ... eo_game%29 - Scroll down.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » October 14th, 2007, 13:12

Woo!

Finally did the advanced. though I must say I found 18 one of the easiest

Fear · Post by **Fear** » October 14th, 2007, 13:19

I've done gold on the portals.

I've also got gold on the first challenge for time and steps. The steps on is a joke tho really, I won't be doing any more of them. The time one is ok, but gets frustrating as the levels become longer.

I've got long jump and terminal velocity too, woo!

Post by **HereComesPete** » October 14th, 2007, 14:24

Grimmie wrote:
http://www.aperturescience.com/
and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Porta ... eo_game%29 - Scroll down.

Zomg, all that speculation about caek, and they missed the rather obvious. Train an animal to do something by rewarding it, it's pavlov's theory applied by a crazy emergent AI to humans/androids.

Also, If the AI contains 'modules' of differing function, then that would indicate a fractured conciousness, as can be evidenced by the way GLaDOS talks in the final battle. That would then allow for the AI to have self-installed the module that stops the neurotoxin.

Post by **Dr. kitteny berk** » October 14th, 2007, 14:27

http://www.steamfriends.com/steam/p2_articleid/888 is moderately interesting. *spoilerific*

Post by **FatherJack** » October 14th, 2007, 20:32

Grimmie wrote:about 4 hours first time, and 1:30 the second time round.
Once you know the maps, it's quite easy :p

I've played it through three times now, second time with the commentary, and a third time to get the cameras.

Achievements don't count in commentary mode, and you have to get all the cameras, including (I think) 3 from the advanced levels in a single game - you can reload a saved game, though.

I can do most of it straight away now, with only the very large room with the turrets on L19 needing a couple of goes. Checked out a couple of videos on gamevideos, and quite a few of them do things differently to how I did, perhaps we should have a tactics-comparing thread sometime.

Still can't get my head around getting gold on the challenge levels with portals, the steps ones are a bit contrived - being more frustrating than fun - as are the timed ones, both relying more on you hitting your marks perfectly and getting a bit of luck.

Only other thing I had trouble with was finding one of the commentary nodes on the WCC level and remembering the gun could shoot through grating.

Still, hopefully there's a lot more to come if the first commentary node is to be believed - stating that this is only the start.

More maps would be great, but something I thought about as I woke up this morning, was how about multiplayer? I don't know if it would be workable, but here are a few game mode ideas I had:

Rat-race mode:
Two players compete against each other to escape first in identical, glass-separated rooms.

Spy-vs-Spy mode:
Two players inhabit the same space, but cannot directly interact with each other (or one would just portal the other somewhere nasty) but they can set various traps for the other one. Perhaps they start at opposite ends and have to reach the other's start point, or there could be mulitple paths through interconnected rooms, providing more opportunities for ambush.

Co-op mode:
Two players with a portal gun each, but who need to work together to escape. Either rooms could be designed so one player has to stand on switches to let the other progress, or the portal guns could work in tandem so that a portal can only exist between the different player's entrance/exits. Perhaps mix it up so that the guns are like in the early stages that only have one fire mode, or only have a single gun and make it droppable.

Lemmings mode:
One player with a portal gun has to escort a team of players to the exit. Could be combined with rat-race mode.

Overlord mode:
One player is in the observation rooms and has various control of platforms, lifts and turrets to stop another player or players escaping.

I had some other ideas about the players being turrets or cubes in a some sort of team deathmatch, but couldn't think of anything that would work.

Post by **Roman Totale** » October 14th, 2007, 21:08

I'm having difficulty getting golds too - some of the target times etc just seem obscenely difficult to achieve. Whilst the least portals one is good (because you have to think things through), least steps and fastest time just seem clumsy.

Actually, having done the bonus maps I was finding it a bit difficult to play through the game again as I kept "conserving" my portals.

Gunslinger42 · Post by **Gunslinger42** » October 14th, 2007, 22:07

I played through the test parts of the normal game again just to get some of the achievements - the camera one (still ended up 3 cameras short somehow) and the friendly fire one, and I found myself playing very differently than I did the first time. I was doing things in ways I'd never of imagined before playing the advanced maps.

Post by **HereComesPete** » October 14th, 2007, 22:27

How many cameras is it that need to be taken out? Also, I've left my chell falling through a recursive loop for a good long time, didnt get the freefall thing, it was a few minutes on l18, with that really long drop to build speed for the platform slinging/climbing thing you do.

hmm, maybe I did that in commentary mode, shit.