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Suggestion...
Posted: March 22nd, 2006, 14:15
by Lateralus
I was thinking, there has been a lot of recent banter about Oblivion, and I'm imagining that this will continue for quite a while as we (those of us who get it) get into the game and work our way through it.
This will probably be the case with other games, like the not-too-distant Spore, and no doubt others too. Psychonauts would be another example, although it hasn't been quite as talked about as the others.
However, none of these fit into any of the catergories as currently defined on the forum, since Oblivion is neither online (as in MMONG) nor a FPS; and Spore isn't going to be a MMONG or a real-time strategy game.
As you will have guessed by now, my suggestion it that maybe we should have a general "Others" or "Offline Games" forum which would cover these games and allow the threads to be kept in some kind of related category, like the recently-deceased "Consoles" forum.
I know that Oblivion, as with Morrowind, will spawn a vast array of dedicated forums, especially once some serious mods start getting made for it; however, I still think that some kind of forum dedicated to other uncategorised games could be of value to the site.
Posted: March 22nd, 2006, 15:21
by FatherJack
Well we have general, but the distinction between that and the discussion board's use is a little blurry at times, as it's often just "Other" rather than "Other Games".
Posted: March 22nd, 2006, 15:26
by Lateralus
Yeah, that was my thinking. The general forum tends to be used for anything non-gaming related, and other games just fall in there cos they have nowhere else to go.
The discussion board is used for things of mildly less importance, links to videos of German kids screaming, and more transitional stuff.
An Other Games forum would make the distinction between Other Games and just general crap.
Posted: March 22nd, 2006, 16:33
by Grimmie
Oblivion has smatterings of FPS, so shove that there. (Other FPS)
And spore contains large amounts of beardy type strategy, so shove that in the bearded strategy zone.
We were trying to steer away from clutter, right?
Compromise! I'm sure just 'cause it's not multiplayer doesnt mean it has to be pulled in to one corner and be told it can't play with the 'other' games

Posted: March 22nd, 2006, 16:35
by Bob47
i agree but didnt we have a forum like that but no-one really went on it so it was blown up in a badger
Posted: March 22nd, 2006, 17:15
by FatherJack
Grimmie wrote:Oblivion has smatterings of FPS, so shove that there. (Other FPS)
And spore contains large amounts of beardy type strategy, so shove that in the bearded strategy zone.
We were trying to steer away from clutter, right?
Compromise! I'm sure just 'cause it's not multiplayer doesnt mean it has to be pulled in to one corner and be told it can't play with the 'other' games

It might be confusing to put it in FPS, but you're right about not separating it because it's not MP, it's an irrelavant distinction.
Maybe if 'Other MMO's' was 'Other MMO/RPGs' ?
Posted: March 22nd, 2006, 17:20
by Lateralus
FatherJack wrote:Grimmie wrote:Oblivion has smatterings of FPS, so shove that there. (Other FPS)
And spore contains large amounts of beardy type strategy, so shove that in the bearded strategy zone.
We were trying to steer away from clutter, right?
Compromise! I'm sure just 'cause it's not multiplayer doesnt mean it has to be pulled in to one corner and be told it can't play with the 'other' games

It might be confusing to put it in FPS, but you're right about not separating it because it's not MP, it's an irrelavant distinction.
Maybe if 'Other MMO's' was 'Other MMO/RPGs' ?
Aye - this be a good idea.
Posted: March 22nd, 2006, 18:02
by Woo Elephant Yeah
*strokes beard*
I have recently tried (and failed) to install a simplistic subforum hack, which would keep everything tidy but allow for more forums to be used.
I think it would help clear all of this up (by the way thanks for the suggestion Lateralus) but I cannot get it to work because it only gives me instructions for the subsilver template files, and we use a 5punkified SmoothBlue template.
Because of this I'm not clever enough to work it out, but it would result in Basically something like this as an example :
5PUNK
5punk

News/Info

Introduce Yourself

Suggestions

LAN Party
Other

Other Games

PC Hardware /Software

Game Reviews
The hack makes it easy to see from the index page if something has been posted in a forum lower down, and provides a direct link to the forum, and vice versa.
Do you think this is a good way to go?
Posted: March 22nd, 2006, 18:14
by Grimmie
I always find subforms a little dodgy, as I believe the main forums can still contain threads, and people tend to forget the embedded forums alltogether, they wither away and die a horribly trolly deathe. It's hard to organise it all I suppose, and I cant think of a good way to sort it out

Posted: March 27th, 2006, 15:12
by Woo Elephant Yeah
How about we get rid of Strategy as a category and a forum, and bundle everything into an Other Games forum which will encompass consoles, strategy games, rpg's and so on.
Should be a lot simpler, as I'm not sure the Strategy stuff is worthy of it's own category.
Posted: March 27th, 2006, 15:20
by Lateralus
Yeah, that sounds like a good plan Mr Woo. Could get all the Oblivion stuff moved there then rather than hiding it away in the Other MMONG forum. The Strategy one is a little underused, and theres not quite enough interest in beards at the mo.

Posted: March 27th, 2006, 15:48
by spoodie
Yes, get rid of Strategy. Although the downside is that it will be harder to ignore all things RTS if it doesnt have it's own forum to ignore.

Posted: March 27th, 2006, 16:03
by Lateralus
spoodie wrote:Yes, get rid of Strategy. . . . . . . .
What?

Posted: March 27th, 2006, 18:43
by Grimmie
Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:How about we get rid of Strategy as a category and a forum, and bundle everything into an Other Games forum which will encompass consoles, strategy games, rpg's and so on.
Should be a lot simpler, as I'm not sure the Strategy stuff is worthy of it's own category.
BOOOOO.

Posted: March 27th, 2006, 19:12
by ProfHawking
Woo Elephant Yeah wrote:How about we get rid of Strategy as a category and a forum, and bundle everything into an Other Games forum which will encompass consoles, strategy games, rpg's and so on.
makes sence i think
Posted: March 28th, 2006, 10:41
by Bob47
you cant get rid of Strategy i mean if you did the other games thingy will be full and really messy (well more messy)
Posted: March 28th, 2006, 11:03
by Dr. kitteny berk
Bob47 wrote:you cant get rid of Strategy i mean if you did the other games thingy will be full and really messy (well more messy)
1) He can
2) He did
3) It might get the Strat games more interest, because people are actaully gonna look at the other games section.
Posted: March 28th, 2006, 12:08
by Woo Elephant Yeah
Too late!
Woah, I'm like, totally spontaneous dude
*hovers over delete board button*
"Oooh it's big red and shiney"
On a slightly less jibberish and more serious note though, anything and everything related to a game that doesn't have it's own forum can be plonked in the Other Games forum.
You may or may not have noticed that the other "Other ****" forums have all been deleted as well, and chucked in here.
Hopefully this is the last major reorg' we need to do, as things have been a bit all over the place recently, and this should offer some stability and make things a lot simpler.
I wanted to reduce the amount of forums on the front page, and this helped me do it, so that's part of the reason it was done.
Thanks goes out to Joose & Grimmie for moderating the Strategy forum over the last 6 months

Posted: March 28th, 2006, 13:27
by Lateralus
Thats, like, totally cool man. Yeah.
But SNPG! That totally sucks majorly. Bogus man.
Posted: March 28th, 2006, 13:49
by Dr. kitteny berk
Great topic guys!
I Agree!