Option 1: Tenerifis

Lee · Post by **Lee** » January 10th, 2007, 13:26

fabyak wrote:What kind of damage are Angels vulnerable to?

Explosive, kinetic, thermal and EM in that order. Kinetic drones seem to work best though.

They look like a pain to tank, some do exp primarily and kin secondary, some do those two the other way round, others do thermal primarily and kinetic sedondary and a few also do EM damage.

amblin · Post by **amblin** » January 10th, 2007, 13:28

Anhamgrimmar · Post by **Anhamgrimmar** » January 10th, 2007, 14:14

i've voted yes, because i belive i could make 15mil in a week easilly (christ i could get that by whoring lv3 missions, from a Q10 agent in about a day). my priorities in eve are shiney toys, accesing the content of eve (cosmos/missions, but these need high standings and shiney toys to tank em), but above all, i need iskies. why? to be able to absorb the fleet ops that would be bound to happen, be able to afford shiney ships and skillbooks, and eventually make even more money

15mill? this i can do. i'm in!

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » January 10th, 2007, 14:15

i voted no. 3 belts not worth it in my opinion especially if i got to pay 15 mil a month for it. angel rats are one of the hardest in game especially for amarr tanks. 3x 1.7mil BS while chaining and getting scrammed means bye bye geddeon, apoc for me. not about ready to lose 150-200mil on something i can easily avoid. the ore would be worth it but i think there has to be something better out there.

i have been talking to a friend Dantes Inferno about having my other alt Red join up with them. they are established in the new regions. he and i have been having a lot of convos about this ISS war and all around political events in eve. just another option if we wanted to go to unexplored land. below is a copy/paste of one of the replys to aonther member of the group looking for new alliance after ASCN fell. not sure of the rats but finding out. i think he said rogue but not sure

Join Ka Tet :D we anti bob, control one of the new regions...able to do the work of alliances 3 times our size. have strong pvp group

http://www.rampage-eternal.net/killboard/

these stats are only a fraction of our pvpers who are bored atm. we have plenty of targets, and best of all are recrutiing atm

http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard ... dID=455850

we have atm 368 members, our avg sp at the last check was 26 million. we have a vast amount of expirienced pvpers/fleet commanders inc people like thebold, trakh, mauxir (our corp inc most of the MASS corp which for the 3 yrs of their existance was a feared pvp corp..if you were with ascn during the fal of xetic i think you have already seen what were capable of) and best of all the alliance is lead by old pa pa smurf himself :d we do use Team Speak, we hahve da grand plans in the works and a lot of fun times to come. But we also on the whole (xpet when im on a recruitment drive) work wholy under the radar..so dont expect to much chest beating out of us.

dp

eRabbit · Post by **eRabbit** » January 10th, 2007, 14:27

Dolly Parton wrote:i voted no. 3 belts not worth it in my opinion especially if i got to pay 15 mil a month for it. angel rats are one of the hardest in game especially for amarr tanks. 3x 1.7mil BS while chaining and getting scrammed means bye bye geddeon, apoc for me. not about ready to lose 150-200mil on something i can easily avoid. the ore would be worth it but i think there has to be something better out there.dp

Angel rats are tough, they're a challenge and they're fun to fight, isn't that what Eve's all about? Plus, 3 belts in Tenerifis is a lot of very snazzy ore.

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » January 10th, 2007, 14:31

i'll go check it out. yes challenge is fun. stupidity when you could get a challenge from another rat race type the won't instantly rip you. I am willing to give it a shot but i am not even 50% for it. we'll see

Post by **fabyak** » January 10th, 2007, 15:04

you just have to make sure you have drones that can rip apart the tacklers (I fell horribly foul of this in a mission last week) so if you need to you can bail but it can be easily done. I used to keep a stock of guns for my 'geddon when I would mine crokite (back before you could skill up on each individual resistance) so I could clear off, get the guns, clear them out, then return... failing that you should be able to tank long enough while drones clear them out

Post by **fabyak** » January 10th, 2007, 15:12

amblin wrote:-words- I'd have to become like Lake. Just with bummings.

click for further explaination

Ricki Lake?

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » January 10th, 2007, 15:29

i am mainly basing these angel rat experiences on what I have experienced by lvl 4 missions. lost 3 apocs 1 geddeon, 2 destroyers and 3 omens doing those rat type missions. dest/omen with a friend just starting out in eve. i know 0.0 rats are different but 3x 1.7mil BS Angel

not saying I won't go, just not for it but thats what this is all about. my answer still is no though and i am not the only one that voted no either

dp

friznit · Post by **friznit** » January 10th, 2007, 16:01

You surprise me DP, considering you're the one who hankers after the high end ores the most out of all of us. Ah well, a no is a no!

Lee · Post by **Lee** » January 10th, 2007, 16:21

So is there other options or did you just want to make it seem like there is and get us all to agree to this one first?

eRabbit · Post by **eRabbit** » January 10th, 2007, 16:30

friznit wrote:As for other options, nothing good at the moment. The big alliance aren't that interested in a small (sub 100) corp with only one or two cap ships pilots although some do offer corp mergers (I'm not keen to lose the 5punkorp name though). The closest we've had to an offer is UCC who are in the middle of Immensea

^^

friznit · Post by **friznit** » January 10th, 2007, 16:36

Lee wrote:So is there other options or did you just want to make it seem like there is and get us all to agree to this one first?

Not at all. This is just an easy short term solution that we can have immediately if we want it. Besides, I'm not doing all the work! Feel free to contact some people and see if you can find something good for the corp that's better than this.

northwesten · Post by **northwesten** » January 10th, 2007, 17:16

amblin wrote:All these questions are actually answered in the thread Friz linked to, though I appreciate not everyone has ISS forum access.

Ore types - Arkonor, Bistot, Crokite, Spodumain and below in all systems. One has Mercoxit. This is top end mining chaps.

One thing we would HAVE to do is compulsory mining ops on a regular basis. Compulsory as in - if you're logged in, you attend. No shirking to empire allowed. I've heard mention of having a regular op day - say Friday, with penalties for regular or persistant non attendance, but I'm not so hot on that idea what with having a girlfriend currently feeling eve-jealousy. I have to tread careful for a while, especially as she's stressed with exams. Aaanyway, back to topic. ISS monitor belt activity in the area, if we didn't mine regularly and keep the veldspar under control, we'd risk losing belts.

I shouldn't need to impress this more, 'rifis is a whole other animal in terms of corp management. I'd have to become like Lake. Just with bummings.

compulsory mining ops on a regular i agree! but one day only or two days aweek! but not here and there. I will go back to empire to do missions!! Mining!! seems great!! I say yes! because why not! lets have a go. If it doesnt work then fine.
I keep the corp taxs as well. I mean why not! help in production etc! new projects like saving f0or carrier or another or even better a TITAN!!

With the PVP side there i think there be now short age on targets and i think it be good when we have friend to help if there was trouble u know?

If we leave if it doesnt work maybe Ka-Tet alliance? by what DP said earlyer. I been reading though and it does seem ok. I am also Ex SA too so it be good i think. This what i think if we leave but i like to stay in ISS if we can!

eRabbit · Post by **eRabbit** » January 10th, 2007, 17:30

Yea, the "why not, it's probably worth a shot" argument seems to be a good one for this. If it doesn't work, we just move out of Tenerifis.

Miro Mishu · Post by **Miro Mishu** » January 10th, 2007, 18:19

Also, if you read the tenerfis section on the ISS forums it says that IF you clear your three belts on a regular basis, more will be awarded to you... Just talk to James for the request.

That means if we keep husking our belts we will have more to mine. The mining is near limitless.

About mining tho: All ore will have to be processed in the Station there. It's another way they make money off of us. We are not allowed any refinerys at our POS's or we get fined and/or booted from the Region/ISS.

Anyhow, that's just a few tidbits.

-Miro/Lara

PS. Also, I voted no, because there are places in this game that allow the same stuff w/o having to pay. I do agree however, that this is good in the short term and 15mil isn't really alot.

Dolly Parton · Post by **Dolly Parton** » January 10th, 2007, 18:55

friznit wrote:You surprise me DP, considering you're the one who hankers after the high end ores the most out of all of us. Ah well, a no is a no!

i am all for the higher quality ores. never said i wouldn't go. just saying this is not my first choice and if its more of an intermediate stepping stone to our future ops i am totally for it. 30 mil a week just to have Dolly and Kenny there is not worth it especially with the less time I get to play since school started (been almost 48 hours since I last logged in). We go this route Kenny will go since he is the miner but the rats I can't see bringing Dolly, isk wise it is not worth the risk (see my lvl 4 mission reply) especially with Angel Rats. Red is headed out to the new frontiers at the end of this month to merge up with them in that lawless land we discussed and lost so long ago

This place though is there NPC stations there? if so what corp, Sanasha, Blood, Angel, Gurista?

are there any complexes/deadspaces?

oh and is there an ice belt, q enjoys mining ice more than ore.

friznit · Post by **friznit** » January 10th, 2007, 20:30

For example, here's one that looks nice:

System JK-Q77
Security -0.66289
Roid Belts 17
Ice Fields 1
Jumps to nearest station 1 (Serenity)

Ore's:
Arkonor
Bistot
Gneiss
Hedbergite
Hemorphite
Omber
Pyroxeres
Scordite
Spodumain
Veldspar

Ice Ore's:
Smooth Glacial Mass
Krystallos

Lee · Post by **Lee** » January 10th, 2007, 20:33

friznit wrote:For example, here's one that looks nice:

System JK-Q77
Jumps to nearest station 1 (Serenity)

Looks good, but being so close to the station wont we get alot of hostiles? or do LV keep their space clean from hostiles?

Option 1: Tenerifis

Tenerifis (ISS/LV Contract)?